This week is a very special week. We have not one, but TWO Roundabout episodes for you to enjoy.

We talked with Colleen and Ajari Wilson, a husband and wife team of game developers and founders of Adversary Games. We talk about their new Kickstarter campaign for their upcoming game Red Cobra, how they got started making games, balancing life and being an indie studio, and what we can expect in the future from this awesome and talented couple.

Be sure to stick around for the After Show... you know... so you can find out what happens "After the Apocalypse".