In this conversation, Joanne speaks with her friend Shelly, who shares their relationship formed while caregiving for Joanne's mom. The episode explores the connection they felt upon meeting and the knowing that they would be in one another’s lives - not knowing what one another had been through.  It’s a “this time around” connection.  Shelly does not share what she is healing from but suffice to say, Dateline meets Snapped. Shelly delves into experiences with stress, trauma, and the importance of self-care and connection. From discussing cortisol's effects on the body to the significance of maintaining routines and finding ways to cope, this episode offers valuable insights for those dealing with similar challenges.