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In this episode of Deep Thoughts with Michelle Handy, we explore what it means to build truly intergenerational workplaces with Dr. Daniel Jolles, a Workplace Behavioral Psychologist and Postdoctoral Researcher at The Inclusion Initiative at the London School of Economics. Daniel’s research focuses on workplace aging, generational collaboration, and how to rethink career longevity in an era of rapid technological and societal change. Together, we dive into how age diversity can become a source of strength—not stigma—and what individuals and organizations can do to prepare for longer, more fulfilling careers.

Episode Highlights

• From Multigenerational to Intergenerational: Why representation alone isn’t enough—collaboration is key.
• The Real Cost of Ageism: How stereotypes harm both younger and older workers—and what’s lost when we buy into them.
• Redefining “Good Work” Across the Lifespan: Autonomy, flexibility, and meaning as pillars of sustainable work.
• AI and Age: Why older professionals’ judgment and soft skills matter more than ever in an AI-driven world.
• Career Longevity and Retirement: How to design a meaningful life beyond full-time work—and why planning should start early.

Key Insights

• Age diversity fosters productivity, creativity, and better decision-making—especially in project teams with inclusive behaviors.
• Generational stereotypes (e.g., “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” or “Gen Z is entitled”) persist despite evidence to the contrary.
• Age and seniority are not the same—organizations must decouple age from leadership status to unlock expertise at all levels.
• Planning for retirement isn’t just about finances—it’s about social connection, identity, and continued purpose.
• Passion doesn’t have to be monetized. Sometimes, being “a bit crap at it” is exactly the point.

About Dr. Daniel Jolles
Daniel Jolles, PhD, is a Workplace Behavioral Psychologist and Postdoctoral Researcher at The Inclusion Initiative at LSE. His work focuses on career sustainability, age-inclusive cultures, and the behavioral science of intergenerational teams. He leads research through the Generations Hub, advancing inclusion and productivity in the workplace.

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