Erika Lens, co-founder of Kinetic Change, and Martin West, creator of JANERS, join host Kumar to discuss their upcoming Agility 4Q workshop. In this episode, they explore the current state of agile, the challenges faced by the community, and the need for a more coherent approach to adaptive software development.

Erika and Martin share their decades of experience in the agile space and their insights on the importance of leadership, systems thinking, and experimentation in driving organizational change. They also introduce JANERS, an AI-informed facilitation platform designed to enhance the workshop experience and foster participant collaboration. Listen in as they share their vision for the future of agile and the exciting possibilities that lie ahead.