Steve, Kellyn and Ryan sit down to discuss searching for a job in 2025. It was Ryan's last show that he recorded with the advocates before changing jobs which, interestingly enough, was not why the subject was chosen.

Ryan Booz: https://www.softwareandbooz.com/ Steve Jones: https://voiceofthedba.com/ Kellyn Gorman: https://dbakevlar.com/

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