About the show: Welcome to Energetic Talk with Colby Abazs brought to you weekly by a partnership of Clean Energy Resource Teams and Two Harbors Community Radio. I am excited to bring you conversations about clean energy and get questions answered from guests near and far. You can listen on KTWH-LP 99.5 FM in Two Harbors, MN, stream online at ktwh.org, or search for "Energetic Talk" wherever you listen to podcasts.

This week: Today we are hearing about CERTs under 5% energy burden campaign with my guest Lissa Pawlisch.