Reel Conversations is a film podcast that seeks to highlight the history of the Real to Reel International Film Festival, presented by the Cleveland County Arts Council. In this conversation, festival director Thomas Manning speaks with writer, director, and Oscar-nominated filmmaker Tom Van Avermaet about "Hearts of Stone," an official selection of Real to Reel 2025.Join us July 23-26 at the Joy Performance Center in Kings Mountain, NC for a celebration of independent cinema from around the world. Tickets and the full schedule of films can be found at realtoreelfest.com.