In this show, we will welcome Futurist Kai Goerlich - former Chief Futurist @ SAP, currently at Visionary Labs (Germany). We Will discuss a variety of topics covered in his articles, as well as his vision of the future.

We also welcome Martin Schwirn from Business Finland. His latest book is Small Data, Big Disruptions - we will discuss the book, how he uses scanning, and his perspectives on metaverse.