I had such a great discussion with Gary Ireland for this episode. Gary is a widowed dad of two college-age young adults, and he lives in New York. His wife, Nancy, died a little over a year ago. I'm grateful he was willing to come on the show and talk about his journey and his reflections as a widowed dad.

Some topics Gary and I discuss include:

• Their family's experience with his wife's cancer, starting when their kids were in middle school;
• Sneaking their dog into the hospital to visit his wife;
• Their experience with Gilda's Club, both before his wife died and after, for grief support;
• Their family project of advocating for full inclusion of girls in the Boys Scouts of America, and how this work carries on his wife's legacy in his kids; and
• Spending time with his young adult kids during the pandemic.

I hope you enjoy my discussion with Gary Ireland.

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