Welcome to the Fatherhood Arise Podcast, where hosts Aires and Ray talk about the intersection of faith and fatherhood. This week, Ray is in the woods, surrounded by noisy crickets, but that doesn't stop them from talking about being exhausted dads who feel a little guilty for being away from their families. 

For the main topic, the dads continue their conversation and reflection on Aires' pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela, and what is the heart of a pilgrim. 

If you want to catch more reflections, you can read previous blog posts on calledtorise.org/blog. 

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