A pristine Wisconsin lake can provide a reference to change in our ecosystems and an opportunity to reflect on ourselves. Author and naturalist John Bates returns to the Perpetual Notion Machine with host Patrick Sajbel to talk about our undeveloped lakes.

Bates shares his insights from a multi-year paddling journey to over a hundred wild lakes, leading up to his latest book “Wisconsin’s Wild Lakes, A Guide to the Last Undeveloped Natural Lakes”. He has spent over 30 years in study of the ecosystems of Northern Wisconsin, served on the Board of the Nature Conservancy, and worked & studied alongside organizations such as the Wisconsin DNR, US Forest Service and UW Center for Limnology.