In this podcast, Fawad Hasan Fawad, the Federal Minister for Privatization, talks about the public sector reform in Pakistan. He shares the challenges and opportunities of this complex process, and why it needs adaptability. He also discusses how state-owned enterprises are a financial drain on the government, and what principles and criteria should shape the reform agenda. This podcast is based on his speech at the third Pakistan Prosperity Forum on 27th November 2023 in Islamabad.