I have been internet and IRL friends with therapist and social worker Amanda Pouncy-Ross for years, and something I love about our friendship is the variety of topics we weave together in our conversations. This episode is no different as we discuss abolition on an individual and societal level, the role of creativity in collective liberation, the concept of and need for chosen family, and plenty more. You can find the show notes and a full transcript of this episode at https://shohrehdavoodi.com/127. 

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