This week on the Refuge Project we talk to long time Children's/Family Pastor Darrell Wickert. Pastor Darrell has spent the last 25 years as Children's/Family Pastor and has great insight on staying focused on your calling. Check out the links below to find Pastor Darrell's Podcast Parenting Isn't Easy.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/parenting-isnt-easy/id1472300590

https://www.audible.com/pd/Parenting-Isnt-Easy-Podcast/B08K563D5J

https://open.spotify.com/episode/78Qi0VIxkMUl5xFmwwGRwf