Our final episode of Season 4! This week, we travel to Hawaii with a whole troop of good people to visit some remarkable refugia spaces near Kaneohe Bay on Oahu. This episode, produced by Colin Hoogerwerf and Jim Stump, first aired on the Language of God podcast in April of 2025.

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In this episode, we visit First Presbyterian Church of Honolulu, the Hoʻokuaʻāina kalo farm, and the Waikalua Loco fish pond.

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