First Lady & Friends

Regaining Control of Our Digital Lives and Taking Back Our Data with Dr. Tomicah Tillemann


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Dr. Tomicah Tillemann (President of Project Liberty) joins Utah's First Lady, Abby Cox, to discuss the breakdown of institutions in our society, fears that the United States won’t be a trusted global partner due to conflicts within the country, and how Project Liberty is focused on helping people regain control of their digital lives.

We also dive into the root of society's dysfunction that stems from conflicts caused by social media, how Frank McCourt Jr.’s latest book, Our Biggest Fight, aims to combat corporate algorithms, and why the business model surrounding our data needs to change to create a better and safer internet.

Then, we discuss how Facebook has become a hub of anger, outrage, and misinformation targeting an older generation and realistic steps at the state level that can be taken to help us regain our personhood.

Related Links

Project Liberty: https://www.projectliberty.io/

Our Biggest Fight by Frank H. McCourt, Jr.: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/743398/our-biggest-fight-by-frank-h-mccourt-jr-with-michael-j-casey/

People’s Bid For TikTok: https://www.projectliberty.io/peoples-bid-for-tiktok/

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