Sam's interview of retired warden, Cathy Linaweaver, offers a fascinating perspective into the importance of programming in prison, changing philosophies on the role of prisons, and how an investment in life change can help break the cycle of incarceration for many incarcerated people. Their conversation touches on all of those topics and more in this episode of Prison Fellowship's Reimagining Prison podcast.

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