In this episode, Sam talks with retired Director of the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction about his journey from studying to be a college administrator to becoming a warden and later state Corrections director. Listen as Reggie shares his insights about why our prisons house so many who might be better served in mental health facilities and how the American corrections system makes it so difficult for formerly incarcerated individuals to get back on their feet.

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