In this episode Sam Dye chats with Mack & Ria Story, co-founders of Top Story Leadership, an organization that provides leadership training in the form of keynote speaking, leadership development books, and numerous additional resources. In this interview, you'll hear them share some of the transformational leadership principles they teach.

Visit getthetransformationequation.com to get a copy of the leadership chart discussed in this episode.

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