In this episode, Sam sits down with Heidi Washington, the director of the Michigan Department of Corrections. Listen in as they discuss some of the department's transformational programs and initiatives.

This conversation with Heidi kicks off a four-episode series diving into corrections in the state of Michigan. In future episodes you will hear from some other corrections staff as well as inmates at Parnell Correctional Facility and Muskegon Correctional Facility, where these innovative ideas are actively changing lives.

Discover Prison Fellowship's Warden Exchange Program at pfm.org/warden-exchange

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