Today’s episode is the first of a two part conversation with Ron Self, former marine and founder of Veterans Healing Veterans, which is an in-prison program now in 5 California prisons. While in the Marine Corps, Ron earned a masters degree in psychology and a doctorate in sociology. Listen in as Ron shares his story from serving in the Marine Corps to how he ended up incarcerated for 23 years and the lessons he learned and now shares through Veterans Healing Veterans. Tune in next week for more about Veterans Healing Veterans.

Listen to Ron Self's 2016 Ted Talk from inside San Quentin State Prison at youtube.com/watch?v=IfG7WV-bN6Y

Discover Prison Fellowship's Warden Exchange Program at pfm.org/warden-exchange

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