What happens when artificial intelligence meets the crisis in the world’s oceans?

In this episode, Dr Peter Dean and Dr Agnieszka Piotrowska speak with Jason Meads about climate change, AI, and the deep governance failures shaping both. From overfishing and microplastics to global heating and emerging AI systems, the conversation traces how planetary-scale problems are colliding—and accelerating.

Jason argues that AI is not just another tool, but a force arriving faster than climate change itself, raising urgent questions about control, responsibility, and whether these systems can be used to protect the planet rather than further exploit it. Along the way, the discussion touches on humanoid robots, environmental costs of computation, and the provocative idea of giving nature a voice through AI.

A thoughtful and challenging episode about existential risk, technological power, and whether there is still room for hope.