Welcome to Holy Hot Mess — the podcast where faith collides with real life, chaos and all.

In this episode, “Relationship Not Religion,” your hosts Stephanie Gabbard and Madison Eversole dive into one of the most important distinctions in our walk with Christ — knowing Him personally versus just following the motions.

Maybe you’ve grown up in church, checked all the boxes, and still feel like something’s missing. Or maybe you’ve been burned by “religion” and wonder if faith is even worth it. This episode is for you. For the ones craving more than rules, routines, and appearances — we’re here to remind you that Jesus didn’t come to establish religion, He came to invite us into relationship.

We’ll share how God shifted our perspective, the moments He stripped away our “good Christian checklist,” and the freedom that comes when you stop striving and start abiding. Expect honest conversation about identity, intimacy with Christ, and what it really looks like to walk with Him daily — even when life feels messy.

At Holy Hot Mess, we believe faith was never meant to be about performance — it’s about presence. Not about doing more, but about being with the One who already did it all.

No hype. No pretending. Just honest faith, real talk, and a whole lot of grace for the journey.

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