In this episode of Founders, Future, host Jae Encarnacion sits down with Tony Sanders, CEO of Gawlo, a leadership development firm revolutionizing how fast-growing companies train their teams. With a background in sales and entrepreneurship, Tony shares how Gawlo solves a critical gap: equipping technically skilled employees (promoted to leadership) with the mindset and tools to lead effectively. His proprietary Gawlo Growth Framework helps organizations from startups to enterprises build cohesive leadership pipelines—because "promoting your best doer doesn’t automatically make them your best leader."

Tony reveals why relationship-building—not ads or social media—has driven Gawlo’s 5-year success, and his hard-won lessons on scaling without sacrificing quality. From transitioning "hustler to entrepreneur" to balancing acquisition with implementation, he offers gold on why founders must "build the brand beyond themselves." For leaders feeling the strain of rapid growth, Tony’s message is clear: "Your business only grows as much as you do. Get rooted in community—it’s the ultimate growth hack."