Margaret Hamilton AM (1941-2022) was a publisher, advocate, writer, educator, curator and passionate supporter of children's literature, particularly picture books. She passed away late in 2022, so we felt it timely to go back to an earlier interview with James Roy, in June 2020 at Pinerolo in Blackheath, in which she talks about what makes a good picture book, how publishers, writers and illustrators manage to play nicely, and some of the pitfalls to avoid. They also discuss how to pitch a picture book text with only four words.

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