In this fireside episode, Silke sits with spiritual elder Jyoti Ma and Earth lawyer Alexandra (“Ally”) Pimor to explore a simple yet transformative question: What was the UN born for — and what does that origin ask of us now? Together, they trace the UN’s roots as a spiritual endeavour grounded in peace, dignity, and a collective choice for life, inviting staff to realign everyday actions with this original intention. Ally expands the meaning of “We the peoples” to include rivers, forests, future generations, and more-than-human nations, offering concrete ways to bring these voices into programmes and governance. Both guests return to the power of individual agency, reminding us that while institutions may feel stuck, people never are — each email, meeting, and act of integrity is a seed shaping the future. The episode ultimately offers a hopeful call to dream the UN forward by nurturing reciprocity, deep listening, and care for all life, and to remember that UN staff are not cogs in a machine, but gardeners in a living ecosystem.

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About the Podcast Guests: Jyoti Ma is an internationally respected spiritual teacher and bridge-builder between ancestral traditions and modern systems change. As Vision Keeper of The Fountain, she has dedicated her life to restoring balance between humanity and the Earth through sacred reciprocity and unity. She helped convene the International Council of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers and the Mother Earth Delegation of United Indigenous Nations, and works closely with the Kággaba Mamas in Colombia on the Sun Project to “remember the Golden Body.”

Alexandra (“Ally”) Pimor is an Earth lawyer, legal scholar, and systems thinker working at the frontier of regenerative governance. As Director of Nature Governance at the Earth Law Center, she leads the pioneering Nature On The Board initiative — bringing the Rights of Nature into corporate and institutional decision-making.She served as one of the first proxies for Nature at the UK company Faith In Nature, and mentors a global network of Nature proxies through the Dandelion Fellowship. Her work invites us to reimagine law and governance as living systems that serve all of life.

• Connect with Alexandra on Linkedin
• Earth Law Center's Nature Governance Agency: a program for onboarding Nature (including Nature as inspiration, advisor, director and shareholder), and cultivating Nature-conscious governance and leadership praxis.
• Dandelion Fellowship: capacity‑building for individuals to practice and speak as a voice of nature