What if the key to spiritual renewal lies not in striving, but in composting? In their usual raw and winding dialogue, Robby Butler and Ernest Prabhakar meander through standing desks, soil microbes, regenerative agriculture, Gethsemane, and K-pop Demon Hunters — only to find themselves circling back to a single question:

> What does it really mean to be a son of God?

This episode is less an argument and more a practice — an honest attempt to listen, stumble, abide, and occasionally forget, in order to remember what matters most. It’s about letting ideas die so that something deeper can grow. Along the way, we wrestle with:

• The tension between restoration and redemption
• The challenge of incarnating truth rather than merely proclaiming it
• The surprising theology of soil, sabbatical, and suffering
• And the spiritual art of abiding through disagreement

Come for the theology of topsoil. Stay for the tear-streaked wonder of abiding love.

“We cannot drag people into the Kingdom with our big ideas. We must incarnate into their soil — forget even the idea — and trust God to resurrect it when the time is right.”

Listen, reflect, and consider: What if the soil of your soul is already healing — not despite the silence, but because of it?