This is the second part of our interview with Renée DiResta, author of 'Invisible Rulers', which explores the rampant and disruptive influence of misinformation and disinformation generators, and the reciprocal relationship with people who consume this social media content. In this episode, we discuss how influencers play a significant role in shaping public opinion; how generative AI complicates trust in media and information; how public health communication needs to adapt to modern engagement strategies; and how building trust requires face-to-face engagement, complex conversations, and good faith interactions.

Hosts: Eric Spiegel, Ph.D. & David Alter, Ph.D. Guest: Renée DiResta

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Keywords

Renée DiResta, social media, misinformation, public health, algorithms, generative AI, trust, political dynamics, influencers, community engagement

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Pt. 2 of our Interview with Renee DiResta 01:52 The Collapse of Society and the Need for Leadership 03:06 The Vacuum of True Leadership 05:28 The Role of Online Influencers in Politics 08:08 Generative AI: An Accelerant of Misinformation 12:06 The Importance of Face-to-Face Engagement 16:09 Navigating Trust and Skepticism in Conversations 20:35 The Value of Complex Conversations 28:18 Building Trust in Public Health Communications

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