In this episode of the Page Break Podcast, Brian sits down with Renee Grey, author of HR: Heart to Heart, to talk about leadership, empathy, and the human side of human resources.

Renee shares her journey from navigating tough conversations and corporate challenges to rediscovering the heart behind HR — compassion, connection, and care for people. Together, we explore how her faith, life lessons, and professional experience shaped the message behind her book and why emotional intelligence matters now more than ever.

Whether you’re an HR professional, a leader, or simply someone who believes people come first, this conversation will inspire you to lead with purpose and empathy.