We only asked multi-hyphenate and Frasier recurring guest star Renee Pezzotta to talk about sitcom stuff with us, but she left us with a profound and inspiring message about the validity of art and the people who make it, in good times and bad. Truly, this is the kind of person who gets a standing ovation from Nicole Kidman when she's in the audience and Nicole Kidman is on stage.

The Frasier Department apologizes for the unusually high frequency of dog sounds in this episode. We're not about to ask the Nicole Kidman-endorsed Renee Pezzotta to do retakes of interview answers just because OUR dog is being his silly self.

Heartbreak feels good in a podcast like this.