Hello and welcome to episode seven of Conversations with my Conservative Dead Father. This podcast comes from direct transcriptions of the email exchanges my father and I had the year before he died. My father was a smart educated guy who happened to also be a conservative. As you might guess, I’m a liberal. These discussions create a forum I know he would proud to be a part of - even if there’s a dangling participle in that sentence. Sorry Pops!

We never tried to convince each other. Our objective was to learn and listen. It was a great gift to be able to hear the other side from someone who I very much respected, even if I totally disagreed with the conclusions.

So let’s get started. 

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https://www.vox.com/2020/9/28/21459803/trump-taxes-nyt-foreign-business-national-security

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/a-long-list-of-shady-financial-mysteries-trump-still-refuses-to-explain/

https://radiolab.org/podcast/what-if

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=joe-biden

• Introduction:This is episode 7 of their podcast.
• Jonathan Grossman is the host and Michael Grossman, an AI-generated version of his voice, is the co-host.
• Discussion Topics:Trump’s foreign business entanglements, referenced by a Vox article.
• Potential corruption of Biden and Harris, referenced by a Mother Jones article.
• Philosophical discussion about accepting the corruption of a chosen candidate vs. opposing candidates.
• A Radiolab episode regarding the Transition Integrity Project in June 2020 which played out scenarios if Trump denied the 2020 election results.
• Mention of Trump’s lawyer, Kenneth Chesebro, and the memo outlining the replacement elector strategy.
• Radiolab being a gold standard for podcasts.
• Contentious Points:Michael thinks Jonathan keeps focusing on Trump's corruption.
• Jonathan believes Michael's support for Trump makes him overlook potential issues with him.
• Both agree that politicians are inherently corrupt to some extent, but have different thresholds of acceptance.
• The subjectivity and potential bias of mainstream media sources are debated, including sources like Mother Jones and Snopes.
• Jonathan wants Michael to see beyond the allegations and judge candidates on policy.
• A truce is proposed: Jonathan won't call Trump a crook if Michael refrains from vilifying Pelosi.
• Radiolab Podcast Discussion:The potential election outcomes and complications, especially concerning the electoral college, are highlighted.
• The potential breakdown of discipline in the military ranks is discussed in relation to a constitutional crisis.
• Conclusion:Both express the need for addressing the gaps in the electoral college system.
• Michael teases Jonathan about Pelosi's integrity.

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