In this episode of Growing in the Green Industry, we welcome Joshua Gillow, Founder of YES Express, and Duane Draughon owner and lead designer of VizX Design Studios.  Both Joshua and Duane are also the co-hosts of Outerspaces, a podcast dedicated to empowering contractors in the outdoor living space.  During this podcast, they share their own career paths and how they came together and stayed connected before deciding to go into business together. They touched on the importance of networking, taking chances, and navigating away from fear mode and the growth of employees and self-care. This episode is hosted by Brett Lemcke at R.M. Landscape, Luke Melograno at Mariani Landscape, and Neal Glatt at GrowTheBench.