Reps. Charlie Miller (R-Brunswick) and Reece Pyrtle (R-Rockingham) share a legislative office suite, many committee assignments, and a bond built around their former careers as law enforcement officers in their communities.  

The former chief deputy (Miller) and police chief (Pyrtle) talk about their first encounter, their friendship, and how their relationship to their respective Senate colleagues gives them a unique insight into the state's bicameral system of government.  

Skye and Brian discuss Governor Josh Stein's budget proposal to the General Assembly, a bipartisan Helene package agreement is reached, a pair of controversial gun bills on the move, tobacco and vaping bills filed, NC State has a new chancellor, #TOTW, and more.  

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