In this episode, I’m joined by my bestie for a no-holds-barred Taylor Swift Reputation fantasy draft—and things get spicy. One of us is a longtime Swiftie, the other’s a newer convert, and neither of us is holding back when it comes to picking our ultimate Reputation tracklist.

Expect passionate debates, lyrical deep dives, and a few shocking snubs (sorry in advance). Whether you’re team OG or team New Swiftie, you’ll want to stick around to see who walks away with the better lineup. May the best Swiftie win.