What do you do when God calls you into something you never expected—and asks you to trust Him in the process?

In this episode, Tom sits down with Phill Tague—husband, dad, pastor, and author of the new book Jesus, Be the Centerfold: Choosing Covenant Faith over Airbrushed Christianity—for a vulnerable conversation about calling, obedience, and faithfulness.

Together they talk about:

• How God redirected Phill’s life and ministry in surprising ways
• The heart behind his new book and what “airbrushed Christianity” is costing us
• Why covenant faith invites us into deeper formation, not polished performance
• The tension between leading a church and leading a family
• How to follow God when you can’t see the whole map

Phill’s honesty and grounded wisdom offer hope for anyone wrestling with direction, identity, or what faithful discipleship really looks like today.

The Giving Life Podcast: Conversations about being a man whose life in Christ gives life to others.

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