<p>Alex Aleinikoff speaks with David Martin on why he resigned from the Department of Homeland Security's Advisory Council, what he objects to in Trump Administration immigration policies and what balanced and responsible immigration policy could look like.</p>

Alex Aleinikoff speaks with David Martin on why he resigned from the Department of Homeland Security's Advisory Council, what he objects to in Trump Administration immigration policies and what balanced and responsible immigration policy could look like.

Resignation with honor:  A conversation with David Martin, former member of the Department of Homeland Security Advisory Council

Conversations on immigration and refugees that go beyond the predictable soundbites. Join Alex Aleinikoff and guests for in-depth discussions on what's happening on the ground and how to understand current policy debates.

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Resignation with honor: A conversation with David Martin, former member of the Department of Homeland Security Advisory Council

Resignation with honor: A conversation with David Martin, former member of the Department of Homeland Security Advisory Council