In this powerful and deeply personal episode, the team sits down with Bailey Payne—author of The Behavior Breakthrough—to explore her unconventional path into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis. From her early days in Child Protective Services to the emotional toll of walking through the wreckage of the Joplin tornado, Bailey shares raw stories of burnout, resilience, and finding purpose. Discover how her background shaped her values, and how ABA found her when she needed it most. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone who's ever questioned their career path, struggled with emotional boundaries, or wondered how personal trauma can become a source of professional growth.