In a recent conversation between Michelle D’Atillo of Sōsh and yours truly, Phil Gerbyshak, we talked about resilience: how to be more resilient and what to do when it all goes sideways, so you can strengthen that resilience muscle.

With permission, I’m sharing the conversation from the Get Sosh Social Soup podcast with you in its entirety. I hope you enjoy it and it helps you in your happiness practice.

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