On episode 249 of You, Me, Empathy, Cathleen Clerkin, PhD and I explore the myth of the heroic leader, the importance of perspective taking, being idealistic and realistic all at once, and Cathleen’s resilience research, my resilience skepticism, and her book, Resilience That Works.

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249: Resilience That Works with Cathleen Clerkin

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On episode 262 of You, Me, Empathy, Emi Nietfeld and I explore society’s obsession with resilience, what happened when Emi edited mental illness out of her college applications, the attachments we have to achievement and ambition, and Emi’s wonderful memoir, Acceptance.

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262: Resilience, Ambition, and Acceptance with Emi Nietfeld

On episode 261 of You, Me, Empathy, Dr. Jamie Marich (she/they) and I explore why safety is never guaranteed, being cool with Jesus but not cool with what the church has done to Jesus, “I don’t know” as one the most spiritual phrases in our vocabulary, and an in-depth look at Dissociative Identity Disorder and why it’s normal to dissociate. 

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261: Dissociation Made Simple with Dr Jamie Marich

On episode 260 of You, Me, Empathy, traci kato-kiriyama (they/she) and I explore the empathy rooted in multidisciplinary art spaces, revitalizing and uplifting of Asian-American community and history, facing death every day and the opportunity within death moments, and what it takes to bring people together.

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260: What It Takes to Bring People Together with traci kato-kiriyama

On episode 259 of You, Me, Empathy, Christina Lynn and I explore the type of self-care that looks like an abandonment of community, how to embrace your heart rather than your head, living open enough to be heartbroken, and the hypervigilance, anxiety, and burden of the caretaker.

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259: The Hypervigilance of the Caretaker with Christina Lynn

On episode 258 of You, Me, Empathy, Jake Crawford and I explore life-changing friendships, growing up as a gay kid in a conservative town, what we do when the people who are supposed to love us don’t accept us, and finding a voice on the stage. 

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249: Resilience That Works with Cathleen Clerkin

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