17 min.  Maureen & Pierre discuss the paradox of having resources and not availing ourselves of these aides.  Why?  Self-esteem?  Fear?  Comfort in the known?  

Pierre suggests care of children necessitates taking care of oneself.  Maureen suggests the importance of learning how to be a person before learning how to be a 'personality.'  A general discussion of raising and educating healthy children ensues.  

Later in the podcast, Maureen and Pierre touch on PTSD, trauma and rehabilitating the nervous system, and how that is different from rehabbing our skeletal muscle system.