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Respecting the Universe: Navigating the CHRO Paradox with Marc Robertz-Schwartz


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We are diving back into one of my favorite topics—values—but from a perspective that is as refreshing as it is necessary for the current state of our industry. I'm thrilled to welcome Marc Robertz-Schwartz, founder of Red Apples Media and author of The Red Apples Way, for a deep dive into the foundational DNA of leadership. We explore the "CHRO paradox," addressing the critical gap between the stated values on a company's wall and the lived reality of the people in the seats. Marc shares his powerful "Red Apples" framework, starting with the unexpected anchor of "respecting the universe," and explains why surrender is often a leader's most effective tool.

This conversation is a must-listen for anyone navigating the high-stakes intersection of technology and human systems. We break down Marc's five-step diagnostic for organizational health and discuss the "black flags" that signal when a company's culture is out of alignment. Whether you are leading a massive restructuring or trying to supercharge your team's engagement, Marc's insights on authenticity, accountability, and the "human behind the automation" offer a clear roadmap for building an organization that doesn't just survive, but truly thrives.

Stacie

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The HX Podcast with Stacie BairdBy Stacie Baird