In this episode, Jacob Franks and Tony Fernandez, with audio production by Azeem Warthen, dive into the often-overlooked value of rest in leadership.

They explore what truly counts as rest — beyond just sleep — and how intentional recovery can fuel clarity, decision-making, and long-term growth. Whether it’s recharging physically, mentally, or spiritually, this conversation unpacks why leaders can’t afford to ignore rest and how prioritizing it can strengthen both influence and impact.