How would YOU explain the differences between taupe, beige and mauve? Inquiring minds want to know. Laura and Bay spend time in this episode honoring Mike Rinder, who passed away on January 5, 2025. Mike Rinder was a top Scientology official who famously defected and dedicated the rest of his life to building a different legacy and working to dismantle the harm done by Scientology. Laura and Bay also discuss the origins of Scientology, ontology and their favorite word that starts with E, Ethics.