What if discipline didn’t mean punishment, but instead, connection? In this episode of Nobody’s Perfect, Jason Hopcus sits down with Zac Hess—educator, Veteran, and Restorative Practices leader—to explore how schools can shift from punitive systems to ones built on empathy, accountability, and healing. With experience ranging from teaching incarcerated youth to leading district-wide change, Zac shares practical strategies and inspiring stories that show how relationships—not rules—are the foundation of safe, inclusive learning environments.

Whether you’re a parent, educator, or student advocate, this conversation offers a powerful look at how we can better support youth and transform school culture—one relationship at a time.

🎧 Tune in now and discover how restorative practices are changing lives and schools for the better.