In this episode, Cameron and Jamie talk with author and mindfulness expert Nate Klemp, coauthor of The 80/80 Marriage and the upcoming book Busy Love. Nate shares insights on how couples can move beyond fairness toward generosity, balance ambition with intimacy, and stay connected amid the chaos of modern life. The conversation explores practical tools for building intentional, thriving relationships that grow alongside business and family.

The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby.

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