In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Gary Chance, CEO of Nantum AI, to explore how AI and human operators can work together to transform building data into measurable, portfolio-wide outcomes.

Every year, new technologies promise to revolutionize the real estate industry. Every year, most of them fail to stick. Gary explains why adoption—not technology—is the most challenging part of innovation and how operators can transition from awareness to action.

We dig into:

• From awareness to action. How large action models and human-AI collaboration will shape the next five years of building performance.
• The 80/20 rule of impact. Why a few interventions deliver most of the results and how to measure what’s left on the table.
• Transparency drives trust. How data visibility and proof of results accelerate collaboration between sustainability, asset, and operations teams.
• AI as a companion. Why operators who work alongside AI gain the edge, and why automation is about partnership, not replacement.
• Breaking platform paralysis. How to connect AI to a business case that proves ROI and scales across portfolios.

About Gary Chance

Gary Chance is the CEO of Nantum AI, where he leads product and strategy for one of the leading AI platforms in real estate operations. With over 20 years in digital transformation and data-driven building performance, he focuses on making AI practical, measurable, and operator-friendly.

Watch if you are:

• A real estate or FM leader struggling to move beyond pilots and dashboards
• A portfolio operator or energy manager trying to quantify real ROI from smart building tech
• Anyone focused on AI adoption, change management, and operational excellence in the built environment

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