In this thought-provoking discussion, Tony van Niekerk chats with Mike Mgodeli, Managing Director of RTUSA, about the transformation of South Africa’s public transport and e-hailing sectors. They explore how mobility is evolving through co-creation between taxis, e-hailing platforms, and fleet operators—offering new opportunities and challenges for insurers and brokers. Mike shares fresh insights into vehicle access, risk management, and the need for more flexible insurance products. If you're in insurance, tech, or transport, this is a must-listen conversation about how innovation is reshaping how South Africans move.