When you pit Lee & Mora up against a book as massive & dense as Return of the Crimson Guard, you're bound to get some crazy shit. This episode is - of course - not an exception to that rule, and this is just the half-way point!

I tried, I really tried, to steer the conversation away from Laseen. Alas, it's not quite possible, given this book. So this episode includes a 15 minute rant on Laseen's predicament (beginning at 01 hour:05 minute mark) & all the (bad) decisions that brought us to this book.

And we are not yet done.

For all interested, we'll leave a link to Lee's Laseen essay here as well.

Lee's Essay (desperately needs a revision, honestly)- https://www.reddit.com/r/Malazan/comments/svjyl2/in_defense_of_empress_laseen_defending_the/

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