In this episode of Primal HR, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham move beyond the doom and gloom of return-to-office mandates and focus on what actually works. They explore practical benefits, flexible policies, commuter support, office amenities, and people-first strategies that can make RTO more humane, effective, and sustainable for both employees and employers.

In this episode of Primal HR, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham move beyond the doom and gloom of return-to-office mandates and focus on what actually works. They explore practical benefits, flexible policies, commuter support, office amenities, and people-first strategies that can make RTO more humane, effective, and sustainable for both employees and employers.

Return to Office: What Actually Works

Primal HR is a bold, no-BS podcast about the real human side of work.Hosted by longtime HR leader Terry Smith and people strategist Leslie Lulham, Primal HR cuts through corporate jargon to tackle what’s actually happening in today’s workplaces — from return-to-office mandates and toxic culture to leadership failures, employee burnout, and the future of work.Each episode blends sharp insight, real stories, and practical advice for HR professionals, managers, and employees who care about building workplaces that actually work for people. No fluff. No performative HR. Just honest conversations about leadership, culture, and the decisions that shape our working lives.If you’re tired of sanitized corporate talk and want real perspectives on HR, leadership, and workplace culture — this is your podcast.

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Primal HR is a bold, no-BS podcast about the real human side of work. Hosted by longtime HR leader Terry Smith and people strategist Leslie Lulham, Primal HR cuts through corporate jargon to tackle what’s actually happening in today’s workplaces — from return-to-office mandates and toxic culture to leadership failures, employee burnout, and the future of work. Each episode blends sharp insight, real stories, and practical advice for HR professionals, managers, and employees who care about building workplaces that actually work for people. No fluff. No performative HR. Just honest conversations about leadership, culture, and the decisions that shape our working lives. If you’re tired of sanitized corporate talk and want real perspectives on HR, leadership, and workplace culture — this is your podcast.

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