We’ve been doing this for years — in fits and spurts, when life allows. This time we’re back for good.

Morgan and Jesse sit down to talk about what it actually means to be a man who shows up — not for the performance, not for the optics, but for real.

In this conversation:

* Jesse opens up about loneliness — the particular kind that lives inside a man who looks like he has a crew but feels perpetually outside the tribe

* Morgan shares the story of running for student body president on a platform of integrity, and what happened when the institution decided it didn’t want integrity after all

* Why the men around you are probably performing belonging just as much as you are

* Jesse’s conviction: taking care of yourself isn’t selfish — it’s the foundation. You cannot engage the world from a grounded place if you haven’t made your bed

* A story from Morgan’s men’s group: a man worried about the state of the world, who hadn’t done his laundry in weeks. What the group said to him — and why it matters

* The permission most men are waiting for someone to give them

This is The Beyond Podcast. Two men, returning to each other and to what matters.

Jesse K Johnson writes at Living and Dying: The Spirit and Power of Human Potential.

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